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San Jose has become identical Los Angeles of Northern California without the beaches. The city is ringed with more freeway coverage than LA. They both sprawl. San Jose has reached density of nearly 6,000, which LA was at that density all along before year 2000. LA and San Jose are both decentralized and have many subdistricts. LA has Hollywood and San Jose has Silicon Valley. They're both smoggy and congested. I'm so happy that it turned out this way since I always wanted it to become like LA. Congrats, San Jose! You're a big city.
ReplyDeleteSo many mistakes in this post. 1.) There are way more freeways in LA than San Jose, no comparison... just look at any map. I'll also mention that the focus is shifting towards creating urban centers and public transit for the next next several decades. 2.) Smog in San Jose is a fraction of what it is in LA, and it will get better over time since San Joseans are adopting electric cars and solar faster than other regions. 3.) San Jose is in Silicon Valley, not next to it.
DeleteBesides that, you are right that the freeway congestion is getting really bad. I hope the transit options get ramped up sooner rather than later. In the near future we will have 3 BRT lines, BART, and some minor rail improvements... but the truth is we need a lot more than that to support our growth rate.
I meant San Jose has more freeways per capita than LA. They both are shifting toward creating urban centers with LA being ahead. I said San Jose has Silicon Valley, and LA has Hollywood, not beside it. According to some surveys, LA is one of the greenest cities in the country with electric cars, green building and etc.. The smog this winter is so bad in San Jose while LA is getting the Santa Ana winds to clear out the smog. The smog readings in San Jose almost got to 200 in the very unhealthy range. LA has BRT Lines in San Fernando Valley and has a metro rail from North Hollywood to Dt. LA. Sounds familiar? Bart to San Jose will cement that, and both will remain congested. I'll check back with my research for an author who confirmed that San Jose has become what San Joseans dreaded for a long time(Los Angeles).
DeleteIt was written for Policy Analysis for CATO Institute on Oct. 17, 2007 by Randal O' toole. The title: "Do you know the way to LA? San Jose shows how to turn an urban area into LA in three stressful decades"
ReplyDeleteBy the way, LA has 55 miles of freeways per 1 million people, one of the fewest in the nation, and San Jose has 78 miles of freeway per 1 million people.
They both are among the most unaffordable areas in the country. They both have some of the fewest available open land for developments. Don't get it wrong. I actually like San Jose being LA of the north and verifies that San Jose is a true big city. It's a good thing.
It's an interesting passage that you should read.
Ah interesting. On a per capita basis your statement about the freeways makes sense. I wonder if the number of lanes are taken into consideration. Another thing to look at is the history of growth of the two cities. In 1930, LA already had 1.2 million people, far more than San Jose has today. Even factoring in the extra land mass, LA has had a 40-year head start in terms of development, and it is indeed considered a world-class city today despite everything Northern Californians might say. I think San Jose has the potential to develop much faster than LA and one day become far more dense. They key advantages we have are the tech industry, MUCH higher median incomes, and relatively low resistance to change. It's going to be a fun ride!
Delete(Also, LA does has a substantial metro system... something we lack today but hopefully we will get with a combination of BART and Light Rail expansions).
San Jose has the Bay Area and 680 corridor to make up for its smaller size compared to LA county. The density is fairly close to LA's density. San Jose is ahead in civic projects like a more modern airport terminal, a river park, new city hall, 49er's stadium(which LA doesn't have and will not have for a time), Martin Luther K. Library and San Pedro Sq. Market(they're now upgrading LA's Grand Market to be like San Pedro's). Once San Jose gets Bart, it will be even in transportation mode. In terms of downtown revitalization, it's neck to neck, but the urban areas of LA has become more like Chicago with more 20 story mixed used towers in Hollywood and Wilshire corridor. They both have no available land in the city areas, where Houston, Phoenix, Dallas and etc. have plenty of available open land in the city areas. San Jose and LA are very, very similar in development patterns with the exceptions of different stoplights and geography.
DeleteWhere are you getting the idea that SJ is anything close to LA in density? LA is 8225/sm whereas SJ is 5576/sm. That's a huge difference.
DeleteWow, LA is really has become like Chicago in a hurry! LA density was only around 6,000 back in 1990's and went up to 7,000 in year 2000. LA has become denser in a hurry. Still, San Jose is a lot like LA back in 1995.
DeleteIf you're comparing 2013 SJ to 1995 LA, I guess that makes sense, then. Thanks for clarifying.
DeleteActually, LA is 15 to 20 years ahead of San Jose, which seems recently. LA has decidedly taken Chicago style of development with even more dense buildings like over 20 story mixed used instead of 5 story mixed used in San Jose area. LA has become more like Chicago, and San Jose has become more like what LA had been all along before the real densification and Manhattanizing of LA in the last 10 years. LA has gone vertical for this period. San Jose is exactly like LA before going vertical recently. We have the old LA, and LA has the old Chicago!
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